The City of Cortland Planning, Zoning & Building Commission met on Monday, October 14, 2013 at 7:00 P. M. at the City Administration Building, 400 N. High Street, Cortland, Ohio. In attendance were the following board members:  Chairman Scott Daffron, Vice Chairman Bill Sasse, Charles Peck, Jim Chubb and Sally Lane.  Also present were Mayor Curt Moll, Law Director Patrick Wilson and the following individuals:

 

            Stephen Zajac            194 S High St.                        Cortland, OH  44410

            Amy Noble (Ellet)      3041 E Waterloo Rd.                        Akron, OH  44312

            Mike Mellott              213 Golf Dr.                           Cortland, OH  44410

           

                                               

Scott Daffron:    Today is Monday, October 14, 2013.   I’d like to call to order the Cortland Planning, Zoning & Building Commission.  Can we have roll?

Roll Call:  Bill Sasse, here; Sally Lane, here; Scott Daffron, here; Charles Peck, here; Jim Chubb, here.

 

Scott Daffron:  Can I have a motion for approval of commission minutes for September 9, 2013?

 

Jim Chubb made a motion to approve September 9, 2013 Meeting minutes, seconded by Charles Peck.  

Roll Call:  Jim Chubb, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Bill Sasse, abstain; Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes.  MOTION APPROVED.

 

Scott Daffron:  No old business tonight, so on to New Business:  Can I have a motion for approval of 11-13 Set public hearing for variance request for 153 Fairview Drive.  The request is to encroach on the 10’ side lot line setback requirement and place an attached garage and a shed within five (5) feet and three (3) feet of the side lot line, respectively.  Public hearing to be set at 6:45 p.m. on November 11, 2013.   Bill Sasse made a motion for approval of 11-13, seconded by Charles Peck.

 

Roll Call:  Sally Lane, yes; Bill Sasse, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes.  MOTION PASSED.

 

Scott Daffron:  Next, can I have a motion for approval of 12-13 Replat of Lot 192 Walnut Run Estates Phase 3 to Lot 192A.  Sally Lane made a motion for approval of 12-13, seconded by Charles Peck.

 

Scott Daffron:  Who do we have to represent this tonight?

 

Mike Mellott:  Mike Mellott.

 

Scott Daffron:  Mike, this is simply an addition of 20 foot?

 

Mike Mellott:  Yes, we are taking twenty feet from the golf course and adding it to the lot line.  The property is bordered by the golf course on the southern side and the western side.  We are taking twenty feet of Walnut Run and adding it to the lot line.

 

Scott Daffron:  Does anyone have any questions?  Can we have a vote on 12-13?

Roll Call:  Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Bill Sasse, yes.

 

Scott Daffron:   Next, can I have a motion for approval of 13-13 New Sign – Garden Brook – 4820 State Route 5 – 4 ‘x 8’ Sign.  Jim Chubb made a motion for approval of 13-13, seconded by Sally Lane.

 

Scott Daffron:  Who do we have to represent this tonight?

 

Stephen Zajac:  Stephen Zajac.

 

Scott Daffron:  Do we have any questions?

 

Jim Chubb:  What is Garden Brook?

 

Stephen Zajac:  It is a banquet center.

 

Jim Chubb:  4820 Route 5, where is that?

 

Several:  It is north of here across the tracks.

 

Scott Daffron:  Is that an illuminated sign?

 

Stephen Zajac:  It will be indirect.  There is a pole there by the parking lot area so it will be indirect.  (Inaudible)

 

Scott Daffron:  That is what it was before.

 

Stephen Zajac:  I have no idea.  There is no sign there now.

 

Scott Daffron:  I think they always had a trailer. 

 

Charles Peck:  With changeable copy.

 

Scott Daffron:  The setback of the sign as you have it on here is 18’ from the edge of the street. 

 

Mayor Moll:  We shouldn’t have any problem with that.

 

Scott Daffron:   You have kept it out of the road right of way so that shouldn’t be an issue.  Do you have any other questions?  Seeing none, can we have a vote on 13-13? 

Roll Call:  Scott Daffron, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Bill Sasse, yes.

 

Scott Daffron:  That approves your sign.

 

Scott Daffron:  Next on our agenda, can I have a motion for approval of 14-13 New Sign – Wollam Chevrolet, 488 S High St. Ten foot high monument sign, basically 6’ x 6’.  Charles Peck made a motion for approval of 14-13, seconded by Sally Lane.

 

Scott Daffron:  Who do we have to represent this?

 

Amy Noble:  My name is Amy Noble.  I am from Ellet Signs.  We are the local sign installer for the General Motors signage.  I believe I was in front of this board exactly a year ago for the tower and wall signs and at that time you asked me what are you doing with the pole sign you just took down and I said I don’t have a clue.  A couple of weeks ago I found out what the clue was.  They had requested a new sign, it is an S-36.   The old sign was about 92 sq.ft. and this one is 37 sq ft.  We also understood and made some quick changes – we wanted a pole sign at 12 ft. and said you could put it almost up to the Right-of-Way if you make it a monument sign.  So we went back to the dealer and they agreed.  So, it is a 10’ high monument sign, GM style, approximately one foot back or thereabouts off the right-of-way.

 

Charles Peck:  When you say off the right-of-way do you mean off the sidewalk?

 

Mayor Moll:  They are essentially the same thing.  They have cars sitting there now so it is not going to be an intrusion on sight or anything.

 

Amy Noble:  Right.  It is actually going to be in one of their parking stalls.  We will work with the dealer to pick out which one.

 

Mayor Moll:  Because of the curvature of the road there is no real issue with line of sight and it is a great sign from what we had.

 

Jim Chubb:  It has taken a long, long time to get situated.

 

Amy Noble:  Looks like they have done some remodeling.

 

Jim Chubb:  Completely.

 

Amy Noble:  Do you have any questions about the sign?

 

Scott Daffron:  The sign actually is something we have been pressing for within the city to get a lower height on signs.  I think they are better because they are in your line of sight when you are driving.  I think it is a really nice sign.

 

Charles Peck:  We concur.  I think it is going the right direction.

 

Scott Daffron:  If no further questions can we have a vote on 14-13?

Roll Call:  Bill Sasse, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Scott Daffron, yes.

 

Scott Daffron:  That approves your sign.

 

Jim Chubb:  Do you know how soon that will be up?

 

Amy Noble:  Could be by December.  It takes manufacturer 6 to 8 weeks to get to us.

 

Bill Sasse:  Was that really the price of it?  Is that really what that sign cost – 17,000?

 

Amy Noble: Yes. 

 

Terri Barnovsky:  Amy, Don will issue the permit tomorrow.  Do you want me to send it to you or to Wollam?

 

Amy Noble:  Please send it to our office.

 

Scott Daffron:  Do we have any other questions or comments?

 

Jim Chubb:  I do.  On Main Street, 337, house is putting everything – a trailer, construction in the whole front yard.  And everything is there every night.  Now that’s not the right area for that in my opinion.  We have gone through this with different people to work on it, but he has been doing that pretty constantly.  I don’t know if the neighbors are complaining or what but it just isn’t right.

 

Mayor Moll:  You are the first one that has complained about it and brought it up to my knowledge.

 

Patrick Wilson:  Jim, are you saying it is gone during the day and at night he is storing stuff there?

 

Jim Chubb:  When they are working it is gone and then it is brought back at night.

 

Mayor Moll:  It is a job-site trailer and some other stuff.  It is duly noted.

 

Charles Peck:  Is it on the grass?

 

Mayor Moll:  Yes.

 

Jim Chubb:  I am for this guy.  But it is just not right.

 

Mayor Moll:  We will look into it.

 

Bill Sasse:  What about the Octagon house signs?

 

Charles Peck:  Are they up again?

 

Bill Sasse:  Yes he has got them up all over the place now and they are not even in Cortland.

 

Mayor Moll:  Off premises signs are not permitted in the city.

 

Bill Sasse:  I am sorry?

 

Patrick Wilson:  He is agreeing with you.   He is saying they are off premises signs and they are not allowed.

 

Charles Peck:  They pretty much made a mockery of us.  If we pick them up and turn them in, the same signs come right back out the next weekend. 

 

Patrick Wilson:  What are they advertising?

 

Several:  A garage sale.

 

Bill Sasse:  And they don’t even live in Cortland.  Should we just yank them?

 

Mayor Moll:  As far as I’m concerned.

 

Bill Sasse:  I will put them with the rest of my collection.  I had 9 of those “We Buy Houses” signs in one day.

 

(Laughter and several comments).

 

Bill Sasse:  I had a talk with Hunter about his blacktopping signs.  He did not know there was an ordinance against them.

 

Bill Sasse:  One other thing, how far do we let the place where the glass place used to be put up car sales?  He usually has 4 or 5 cars for sale up there with the prices on the windshield.  Right next to the roller rink.

 

Mayor Moll:  He is allowed to that.

 

Bill Sasse:  He’s allowed to do that?

 

Mayor Moll:  Yeah.  He’s got a used car business.

 

Scott Daffron:  Technically, he doesn’t follow all of the dealer’s license regulations.

 

Mayor Moll:  He has a dealer’s license.

 

(Several comments)

 

Bill Sasse:  So he is okay there?

 

Patrick Wilson: We can’t enforce the dealer’s license.

 

Scott Daffron:  As far as the city he is fine, but may not be in compliance with the state of Ohio.

 

Mayor Moll:  He has made some changes to bring him into compliance but I don’t know if the has done everything. 

 

Bill Sasse:  That answers my question.  As long as you’re okay with it, I’m okay with it.

 

Mayor Moll:  It is a parking lot.

 

Scott Daffron:  Anything else?  Can I have a motion to adjourn?

 

Sally Lane made a motion to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Bill Sasse.

Roll Call:  Bill Sasse, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Jim Chubb, yes.  MOTION APPROVED.

 

Meeting Adjourned: 7:16 pm.

 

 

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Scott Daffron, Chairman                    Date                            Teresa Barnovsky, Secretary