The City of Cortland Planning, Zoning & Building Commission met on Monday, August 13, 2012 at 6:45 P. M. at the City Administration Building, 400 N. High Street, Cortland, Ohio. In attendance were the following board members: Chairman Scott Daffron, Vice-Chairman Bill Sasse, Sally Lane, Charles Peck, and Jim Chubb. Also present were Law Director Patrick Wilson, Service Director Don Wittman and the following individuals:

 

                        Gerri Moll                  150 Heritage Lane                 Cortland

                        Michael Gitchel         264 Park Ave.                        Cortland

                        Curt Moll                   150 Heritage Lane                 Cortland

                       

Scott Daffron: Today is Monday, August 13, 2012.  I would like to call to order Cortland Planning, Zoning and Building Commission for the purpose of public hearing 17-12, Zoning determination / change for 264 Park – request to change to Central Business District by new owner.

 

Scott Daffron: Can we have roll?

Roll Call: Bill Sasse, here; Sally Lane, here; Scott Daffron, here, Charles Peck, here; Jim Chubb, here.

 

Scott Daffron: Who do we have to represent this tonight?

 

Michael Gitchel:  The owner, Michael Gitchel.

 

Scott Daffron:  Can you give a little bit of background information about the property and why you are seeking a determination of Central Business District?

 

Michael Gitchel:  Certainly.  I have some printouts outlining what I have in mind.  In essence I was looking for a property, where I can live and work and pursue my passion which is hospitality.  I am from New York City and was looking for a nice place where I can raise my son and be away from it all, traffic, etc. I have been looking for a place for awhile and this property came up on E-bay, there were 30 days for the bidding, and did my research as far as the surrounding areas.  I decided to purchase the property and now I would like to continue with my plans if possible.

 

Bill Sasse:  Forgive us for a second since this is the first time for us to see what your plans were.  So forgive us while we pause and review your plans.

 

Bill Sasse: First question – You plan on putting a restaurant, a bed and breakfast and some residential in there.  Is the residential strictly for you?

 

Michael Gitchel:  For myself, yes.

 

Bill Sasse: The bed and breakfast is over night or 2-3 days?

 

Michael Gitchel:  Yes.

 

Bill Sasse:  And the restaurant would be an ongoing operation, 7 or 5 days a week? 

 

Michael Gitchel:  Yes the restaurant would be 6-7 days/week.    

 

Bill Sasse:  Is that any type of special restaurant or have you not had a chance to think about that yet?

 

Michael Gitchel:  I am not sure yet. It all depends on what I feel would work best here.  The restaurant would be separate from the bed and breakfast.

 

Bill Sasse:  The restaurant would be in this one corner then, that is covered with the gray.

 

Michael Gitchel: The restaurant would be in section where the kitchen and cafeteria were.

 

Bill Sasse:  And you and your son would enjoy your peace and quiet on the 3rd floor.

 

Michael Gitchel:  Hopefully yes.  And will depend on the building code and what they allow on the 2nd and 3rd floor, but that is the idea.

 

Charles Peck:  Have we done any analysis on parking situation there at all?

 

Michael Gitchel: I understand that there are about 100 parking spaces as it is now.

 

Curt Moll: He is not asking for the business at this time but a zone determination.

 

Don Wittman: If we want to back up here a little bit.  The primary building of Cortland Elementary dates back to 1876, current building dates back to 1923 – predates any concept of a zoning code.  What we have is a parcel in the city with a Map Designation of NTX – which is not even a Zoning Classification.  When approached by the new owner as to what could happen, I said first you have to ask for a Zoning Determination, not even a zone change because we are not changing it from anything – we are zoning it for the first time.  Question comes up – what can you do?  Service District opens it up to a myriad of opportunities from a commercial standpoint, however it would preclude a residential situation or owner occupy.

 

Bill Sasse: Isn’t there something about Central Business District has to be a continuous strip?

 

Curt Moll: I would like to make a few comments.  Curt Moll, 150 Heritage Lane.  I own property adjacent to this property.  I have a concern about our zoning regulations.  Number 1, there is no designation in our zoning regulations for a bed and breakfast.  There is only a designation for a hotel or motel or restaurant so we had to put this into a zoning classification that fits that would allow the 3 uses of the property that the new owner would like to have.  This is a deficiency in our zoning code.  What causes concern  and why Geri and I are here this evening, the concern that I have in the future as we go forward as you look at other things that could be in Central Business District, the setback limitations and some of those things, they don’t really fit the property and we would like to retain the residential nature of the neighborhood.  Obviously, a restaurant or bed and breakfast or something like that won’t impact that significantly,  but anything that is going to introduce traffic and noise or things that will impact residential, I would like to at least implore you in the future to make sure you look at those issues if you approve different businesses for this property.  My concern is not an objection.

 

Bill Sasse: Those were some of my concerns too. If we do zone this Central Business District and it doesn’t work out for you (I wish you every hope that it does) then we have this property with a lot of possibilities we may not want here.

 

Michael Gitchel: I understand.  But Central Business District is only zoning classification that would allow me to combine all 3.

 

Curt Moll:  There is actually a definition in our zoning regulations for rooming house and boarding house but we don’t allow it anywhere.

 

Scott Daffron: In retrospect that property has been used for a school forever with a lot of traffic every day.  The actual idea of traffic, no matter what you do today, you are never going to see the amount of traffic that area used to see.

 

Curt Moll:  The nature of the area has changed a little bit because it is now a park and not just a playground associated with the school.  I guess my concern would be if there is more disjointed activity than there used to be.  It is just a concern.  What do we do if this comes up again?

 

Bill Sasse: Where’s the public?  They have all been notified, correct?

 

Patrick Wilson: Yes, the notice was handled properly.

 

Scott Daffron: We don’t have any opposition to it at this point from the public.

 

Michael Gitchel: I would like to add that the adjoining neighbor is a service zone.

 

Don Wittman: Yes there are limited setbacks within the Central Business District classification which would allow zero front setback which would be on Park however any property adjacent to residential would still require a buffer.  You could never encroach within 30’ of rear setback because it is adjacent to residential.  You couldn’t go more than 10’ to the south which is the side property line and requires buffering between those areas.   Right now there is no plan to change the structure, if anything there is too much square footage.

 

Michael Gitchel: I have a suggestion for that. I realize that there is a 30’ set back and a 15’ set back.  But again central business district is the only one that addresses hotel and motel.  Maybe you can give building 2 Zones?  I know that is done on rare occasions.

 

Curt Moll: I think the fact that next door is service - S1 is also a concern.  And that it  is carried on in largely residential area, I would say that is in residential district even. At least one lot that is zoned service has been vacant for many years and is still zoned service should probably revert to residential.

 

Michael Gitchel: I know that the area is residential but between the property zoned service district and my property there are 3 homes and then industrial.

 

Scott Daffron – Do we have anyone else who would like to speak for the zoning change?  Anyone who would like to speak against?  Seeing none, can I have a motion to close public hearing 17-12?

 

James Chubb made a motion to close public hearing 17-12, seconded by William Sasse.

Roll Call:  Scott Daffron, yes, Charles Peck, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Bill Sasse, yes.  Motion passed.

 

Scott Daffron:  The actual vote is taken in the regular meeting which will convene at 7:00 and we will ask for any additional comments you may have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The City of Cortland Planning, Zoning & Building Commission met on Monday, August 13, 2012 at 7:00 P. M. at the City Administration Building, 400 N. High Street, Cortland, Ohio. In attendance were the following board members: Chairman Scott Daffron, Vice-Chairman Bill Sasse, Sally Lane, Charles Peck, and Jim Chubb. Also present were Mayor Curt Moll, Law Director Patrick Wilson, Service Director Don Wittman and the following individuals:

 

                        Gerri Moll                  150 Heritage Lane                 Cortland

                        Michael Gitchel         264 Park Ave.                        Cortland

                        Noel Stickle                4827 Brookwood                   Boardman

                        Bill Brader                 4827 Brookwood                   Boardman

                        Jerry Carleton           415 Cherry Hill Ln                Cortland

 

           

Scott Daffron:  Today is Monday, August 13, 2012.  I’d like to call to order the Cortland Planning, Zoning & Building Commission.  Can we have roll?

Roll Call:  Bill Sasse, here; Sally Lane, here; Scott Daffron, here; Charles Peck, here; Jim Chubb, here.

 

Scott Daffron:  Can I have a motion for approval of commission minutes for the Regular Meeting held July 9th, 2012?

 

William Sasse made a motion to approve July 9th, 2012 Regular Meeting minutes, seconded by Jim Chubb.  

Roll Call:  Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Jim Chubb, yes, Bill Sasse, yes.  MOTION APPROVED.

 

Scott Daffron:  No old business on our agenda, moving on to new business:  Can I have a motion for approval of 16-12a – Sign – HMHP Cortland Family Health Center, 421 S High Street.  Wall mounted awning with lettering on front of building. 

Bill Sasse made a motion for approval of 16-12a, seconded by Charles Peck.

 

Scott Daffron: Who do we have to represent this?

 

Noel Stickle:  Noel Stickle, Practice Manager.

 

Scott Daffron:  Do we have any questions?

 

Noel Stickle:  I hope you guys approve it because it is already there. 

 

Scott Daffron:  That is a persuasive argument.

 

Bill Sasse:   They did a fine job on it too.

 

Jim Chubb:  Every business in there has the same type sign.

 

Noel Stickle:  The only addition we may have in the future is we are seeking another physician and we would add his/her name at that time.

 

Scott Daffron:  If we have no other questions, can I have a vote on 16-12a.

 

Don Wittman – For clarity, we are just looking at the wall sign.  The panel on the monument sign is for informational purposes only and does not require approval.  That was approved with the original sign.  We are not considering that or rehashing how close it is to the road or anything like that.

 

Roll Call:  Jim Chubb, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Bill Sasse, yes; Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes.

MOTION APPROVED.

 

Scott Daffron: Next on the agenda, Can I have a motion for approval of 17-12 – Zoning determination / change for 264 Park.  Request to change to Central Business District by new owner.

Bill Sasse made a motion for approval of 17-12, seconded by Jim Chubb.

 

Scott Daffron:  Is there anything else you would like to add at this point?

 

Michael Gitchel: Please approve.

 

Mayor Moll: Does this have to go to City Council?

 

Patrick Wilson: Yes it does.

 

Don Wittman: If approved it would be a recommendation to Council. They would set public hearing 20-30 days out and then have 3 readings.

 

Scott Daffron:  What is your time frame on doing all of this? 

 

Michael Gitchel:  I couldn’t start immediately because of zoning.  So, hopefully next spring. 

 

Scott Daffron:  Do we have any other questions?  Seeing none can we have a vote on 17-12?

 

Roll Call: Scott Daffron, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Bill Sasse, yes.  MOTION APPROVED.

 

Scott Daffron: This approves our recommendation to Council for zone change.

 

Scott Daffron: Next on the agenda, Can I have a motion for approval of 19-12 – Replat Lot 13 – Copperlake Plat No.1.  The purpose of this replat is to relocate 30’ Sanitary Easement Only.

 

Bill Sasse made a motion for approval of 19-12, seconded by Charles Peck.

 

 

Scott Daffron: Who do we have to represent this tonight?

 

Jerry Carleton: Jerry Carleton.

 

Mayor Moll:  Why are you doing this, Jerry?

 

Jerry Carleton:  Whoever put this in at the time did not put the easement against the north property line.  All we are doing is moving the easement to the north property line which will give us more space on the lot to build a house.

 

Don Wittman:  This was originally brought forward by Land Development Company and when they platted the lot, they drew easement where the sanitary sewer was in middle of the easement.  They had a footprint for their Villas which would fit within that and meet all of the other side setbacks.  It was always a tight building lot because of the sanitary sewer easement creating essentially 30’ setback on north property line.  Shifting it 5-7 ft.to the north will not impact city’s ability to access and maintain the sanitary sewer and it will allow just enough room to keep foundation off sanitary easement without a license.  You could go through a license process but it is then harder to track – this is a more permanent method of creating a building lot that will not raise any flags in the future.

 

Jerry Carleton:  Problem is when they created this plat they could have shifted lot 40’ and created full lot.

 

Scott Daffron:  Any questions?  Seeing none, can we have a vote on 19-12?

 

Roll Call: Sally Lane, yes; Bill Sasse, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes.  MOTION APPROVED.

 

Don Wittman: That too will be a recommendation to council.

 

Scott Daffron:  Do we have any other questions or comments?  Seeing none, can we have a motion to adjourn?

 

Bill Sasse:  Can we wait just a second? I have a question about the size of “For Sale” signs, building for sale signs and things along that line.  Do we have anything about the size of them?

 

Scott Daffron:  Commercial is 4’ by 8’.  The other ones for home such as for sale by owner restricted to a smaller size.

 

Mayor Moll:  If it is a subdivision or something like that it can be larger.  For an individual home they are called real estate signs and they are much smaller.

 

Don Wittman: And just in full disclosure I don’t go down and chase commercial signs to require an annual permit however mainly we put it in there for a way to go after commercial signs that are in disrepair. You don’t have a permit so come in and get one or fix it.

 

Scott Daffron:  Residential property signs shall be 12 feet total.

 

Sally Lane made a motion to adjourn the meeting, seconded by James Chubb.

 

Roll Call:  Bill Sasse, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Scott Daffron, yes.  MOTION PASSED.

 

Meeting Adjourned: 7:17 pm.

 

 

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Scott Daffron, Chairman                    Date                            Teresa Barnovsky, Secretary