Scott Daffron:  Today is Monday, July 9, 2012.  I would like to open Cortland Planning, Zoning and Building Commission for purpose of public hearing 14-12, public hearing for sign variance – Greenwood Auto 659 S High Street.  Request to install a pole sign that exceeds the 12’ high and 32 square foot maximum dimension.  Who do we have to represent this tonight?

 

Rob Platt: Attorney Rob Platt on behalf of Greenwood.

 

Scott Daffron: Let’s open it up for discussion.

 

Mayor Moll: Don left some comments we can read in the record after he is finished.

 

Scott Daffron: This variance hearing is only to consider the pole mounted sign.

 

Bill Sasse: I do have a question.  I don’t know if anyone has the answer.  What is the height of the existing sign? 

 

Rob Platt: If you look at the 2nd page of the handout, you will see that the “E6” sign is going where E1 was.  The current type sign, the Chrysler – Jeep - Dodge sign, at the E6 location where it is noted at the bottom of the page will be moved to the E1 location and the existing sign at E1 will be removed and the same type sign at E6 will go to the E1 location.

 

Mayor Moll: The sign that is going in is the same size and height as the sign that is currently there that you can’t really see.

 

Rob Platt: Yes as the existing sign, the big sign that is on the south end and Chrysler says you have to move it. 

 

Mayor Moll: You are not really asking for a new larger sign.

 

Rob Platt: No but pursuant to current law because we are moving it…

 

Scott Daffron: The Pre-certified used car sign which is at E1 is gone?

 

Rob Platt: Yes that one is gone.

 

Mayor Moll - The comments that Don left:  “This is relocation of existing pole mounted sign.  Brand requirements from Chrysler Corporation.  Eliminates the “Quality Pre-Owned” sign.  The variance is within the Commission’s discretion.  The size and height and location should not impact visibility of motorists on the public road.”

 

Rob Platt:  If you look at the 3rd page, that may make it a little clearer.  This sign will be going to E01 and E01 will be gone.

 

Scott Daffron: Same dimensions?

 

Rob Platt: Yes same dimensions, moving from south of building to NW corner.

 

Mayor Moll: I did a search on the internet of a number of dealers and every single dealer and doesn’t matter where they are located – suburbs of Chicago or Boston… they all have the same sign and same height.

 

Attorney Wilson: The one is Austintown is identical.

 

Rob Platt: This is what Terry is indicating to me that this is being mandated by Chrysler.

 

Bill Sasse: Are they going to remove those banners?

 

Rob Platt: According to what I gave you on 2nd page, there is a non-conforming banners and I cringe at that – a couple of the ones and I assume that the ones you are speaking about at E03, but there are other banners there and as we talked about previously non-conforming uses but the way I understand it those two are gone.  And they will be dressing up the front of the structure itself.

 

Scott Daffron: We will consider that at the regular meeting.  Do we have any other questions? Would anyone else like to speak for the variance?   Anyone to speak against the variance?  Seeing none can we close the public hearing 14-12?

 

James Chubb made a motion to close public hearing 14-12, seconded by Charles Peck. 

 

 

The City of Cortland Planning, Zoning & Building Commission met on Monday, July 9, 2012 at 7:00 P. M. at the City Administration Building, 400 N. High Street, Cortland, Ohio. In attendance were the following board members: Chairman, Scott Daffron, Sally Lane, Charles Peck, Jim Chubb and Bill Sasse. Also present were Mayor Curt Moll and Law Director Patrick Wilson and the following individuals:

 

Rob Platt                                332 Old Oak               Cortland

Terry Greenwood                                                     Cortland        

Noel Stickle                            HMHP                        Youngstown, OH

 

           

Scott Daffron:  Today is Monday, July 9, 2012.  I’d like to open the Cortland Planning, Zoning & Building Commission.  Can we have roll?

Roll Call:  Bill Sasse, here; Sally Lane, here; Scott Daffron, here; Charles Peck, here; Jim Chubb, here.

 

Scott Daffron:  Can I have a motion for approval of commission minutes for the Regular Meeting held June 11, 2012?

 

Charles Peck made a motion to approve June 9th, 2012 Regular Meeting minutes, seconded by Sally Lane.  

Roll Call:  Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Jim Chubb, yes, Bill Sasse, abstain.  MOTION APPROVED.

 

Scott Daffron:  No old business, moving on to new business:  Can I have a motion for approval of 14-12 – Request for sign variance – Greenwood Auto 659 S High Street.  Request to install a pole sign that exceeds the 12’ high and 32 square foot maximum dimension. 

Bill Sasse made a motion for approval of 14-12, seconded by James Chubb.

 

Scott Daffron: Do you have anything you would like to add at this point?  Do we have any other questions or any other comments you would like to add at this time?  Seeing none, can we have a vote on 14-12?

 

Roll Call:  Jim Chubb, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Bill Sasse, yes; Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes.

MOTION APPROVED.

 

Scott Daffron: That approves your request for the sign variance.

 

Scott Daffron: Next on the agenda, Can I have a motion for approval of 15-12 – New Sign – Greenwood Auto 659 S High Street.  Wall mounted sign for front of building in 5 parts: “Chrysler”, “Jeep”, “Dodge”, “Ram” and “Greenwood”.

Bill Sasse made a motion for approval of 15-12, seconded by Sally Lane.

 

Scott Daffron:  Who do we have to represent this tonight?

 

Rob Platt:  Attorney Rob Platt on behalf of Greenwood. 

 

Scott Daffron: Don noted in his notes that everything in the wall mounted sign applies within the sign ordinance.  Any other questions?

 

James Chubb:  Is this another demand by Chrysler?

 

Rob Platt: Yes as I understand it they are mandating a different badge if you will with respect to the various brands which are represented on the front of the building.

 

Scott Daffron: Are they actually changing the façade?

 

Rob Platt: As I understand it they are changing the façade as well, that is correct.

 

Bill Sasse: It is going to look a lot better. 

 

Scott Daffron: any other questions or points of discussion for 15-12?  Seeing none can we have a vote on 15-12?

  

Roll Call: Scott Daffron, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Bill Sasse, yes.  MOTION APPROVED.

 

Scott Daffron:  That approves your new sign.

 

Scott Daffron: Next on the agenda, Can I have a motion for approval of 16-12 – New Business – Cortland Family Health Care (Humility of Mary Health Partners) – 421 S High Street. Charles Peck made a motion for approval of 16-12, seconded by Sally Lane.

 

Scott Daffron: Who do we have to represent this tonight?

 

Noel Stickle: Noel Stickle, I am a practice manager for Dr. Patel representing HM.

 

Scott Daffron:  Give us just a little overview of the business.

 

Noel Stickle: Basically we are taking Dr. Patel’s existing business and moving it down the street and he is now employed by Humility of Mary Health Partners.  So we will be moving to 421 S High Street.  Right now it has room for 2 physicians which he will be one of them.  We have 6 patient exam rooms and we will be calling this Cortland Family Health Center.

 

Scott Daffron:  This is Bipin Patel? 

 

Noel Stickle: Yes.

 

Mayor Moll: So there will be another doctor joining him at some point?

 

Noel Stickle: Yes.

 

Patrick Wilson: Do you want Don’s comments read into the record too on this one?

 

Mayor Moll: We should do that.

 

Patrick Wilson: “Business use complies with zoning classification.  Parking and all other zoning requirements are met.”

 

Bill Sasse: Is it an older building? 

 

Scott Daffron: It is the Hallmark. 

 

Bill Sasse: Oh alright.  Is there a knox box on that building?

 

Noel Stickle: Yes there is.

 

Scott Daffron: Any other questions?  Seeing none, can we have a vote on 16-12?

 

Roll Call: Sally Lane, yes; Bill Sasse, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes.  MOTION APPROVED.

 

Scott Daffron: That approves your new business and good luck on your new location.

 

Scott Daffron:  Next on the agenda, need a motion on 17-12 - Set date and time for a public hearing for zoning determination/change for 264 Park Street which is the old Cortland Elementary.  Request to change to Central Business District by new owner.  To be set for August 13th at 6:45 p.m.    Bill Sasse made a motion for approval of 17-12, seconded by Charles Peck.

 

Roll Call: Bill Sasse, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Scott Daffron, yes.

 

Scott Daffron: Last on our agenda tonight, can I have a motion for approval of 18-12 Property Split - .1341 Acres of Hopkins parcel (145 S High St) to Drs. Foster as per description.

 

18-12 Bill Sasse made a motion for approval of 18-12, seconded by Sally Lane.

 

Scott Daffron:  Who do we have to represent this tonight?

 

Rob Platt: Yes, attorney Rob Platt with respect to Drs. Foster.    What we have is – I believe the survey is in front of you.  Dr. Foster’s property as it exists at this point in time has no parking in front and parking on Hopkins property– has been that way for years.  There is a 20’ Easement along S Side of property along Sparkle Market.  Dave and Pearl Hopkins have agreed to sell 35’ to the Fosters to facilitate the parking.  Also included in the deed will be a passover easement with respect to the balance of the realty… parking lot basically for the remaining Hopkins property which is the reason for it  - also squares off dogleg of Hopkins property, the 12’ section on the N Side.

 

Mayor Moll: I am a little confused, the south boundary of that property is which line? There is a line with an arrow and a line with sort of a headlight…

 

Rob Platt: The S boundary of the Foster property as it exists now?  This 20’foot piece that runs along the lands of Howard Mease.

 

Mayor Moll: That’s Foster’s property as well?

 

Rob Platt: Exactly.

 

Mayor Moll: So, that’s a driveway.

 

Rob Platt: It is except for the utility pole and curbing that is there.

 

James Chubb: the 217’ that goes into the 35’ that is against Sparkle?

 

Rob Platt: No Sparkle is the South 416’ line.

 

Mayor Moll: That is what confused me.  There is a 20 foot strip of Foster’s property that runs all the way out to High Street.  But without some kind of easement he wouldn’t be able to use that for a driveway.

 

Scott Daffron: Any further questions?  Can we have a vote on 18-12?

 

Roll Call: Bill Sasse, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Jim Chubb, yes.

 

Scott Daffron: any other points of discussion?

 

James Chubb:  Yes, I have one thing in regards to Cortland Elementary.  It will be in the paper that we are going to have the hearing?

 

Mayor Moll: It will be in the paper. Actually I am an adjacent land owner and I have already received a letter that there is going to be a public hearing.

 

Patrick Wilson: It will be in the paper one time publicizing the hearing and all of the contiguous land owners have to get notice.

 

Mayor Moll: I was looking through what is allowed in Central Business District and it is fairly restrictive but not totally restrictive but mostly office and retail applications.

 

Scott Daffron: I am sure it has happened a lot in the area since they have closed a lot of schools – so is interesting – what do you do with it.

 

Bill Sasse: I am wondering what is going to happen with playgrounds and all of that – it is the same property isn’t it?

 

Scott Daffron: No, the city owns that.  Can we have a motion for adjournment?

 

Charles Peck made a motion to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Sally Lane.

 

Roll Call:  Scott Daffron, yes; Charles Peck, yes; Sally Lane, yes; Jim Chubb, yes; Bill Sasse, yes.  MOTION PASSED.

 

Meeting Adjourned: 7:23 pm.

 

 

                                            _             ____                            _______________________

Scott Daffron, Chairman                    Date                            Teresa Barnovsky, Secretary